Good point there in post no. 145. I had posted the same idea but the damn comment does not appear. But since you did, that’s ok now.
To DeathWalker:
Where did you read that Jiraya killed the men that Pain is using? He just said “Shinobi I’ve met before” not killed. So as azreal said, all immortal jutsus use the same principle, other person lives and bodies or body’s parts. Hidan wasn’t really immortal, even Kakuzu said that there was not such thing. He performed a ritual and sacrificed the lives of shinobi he fought, it was his dogma, in other words his jutsu. The only exception was Nibi because Akatsuki goals were first.
Why Madara didn’t take Itashi’s body? Maybe because at first Itashi didn’t had the EMS and I think that’s what he want now, a Uchiha with EMS to recover his true power, that’s why he is keeping Itashi’s eyes for Sasuke. And second, because later Itashi got sick and as so he was discarded. Madara didn’t take an unknown Uchiha because it would be pointless to the story and for other reasons I said before. As for Dark Blue, it can mean anything, for example, in the west that colour represents royalty, but in Japan the colour of royalty is purple. I think Kishi said Dark Blue because that the colour Kakashi resembles most, like the Uchihas for Dark and Red.
Why don’t Kishi come out and say Madara is not using Obito’s body? Well maybe because he is, when people were speculating about Jiraya, if he was dead or not, he came out and said he was really dead, so why doesn’t he do the same with Obito? Think about that.
A few things, firstly I am in the west and dark blue is not royalty, purple is, not sure where you got that idea from. As for kishi it is possible he might not even know about the obito thery. When a person uses colors to describe a fight or a scene in a story it normaly means the moud of the said event. I live in Southern California, The west coast of the west, so you cant get much more west then I am.
A few other things I got from the interview, Naruto will most likely find out minato is his father and kakashi is probily going to be the one to tell him, hence here comes flash backs.
With kakashi anything could happen, he cold become hokage, it would fit, the 1st and 2nd trained the 3rd, the 3rd trained jeriah who turned hokage down, jeriah trained the 4th and the 4th trained kakashi who in turn trained naruto. But hokage isn’t realy kakashi’s style so I doubt it.
Kakashi could find out that tobi is obito (as submited by daniel) but I doubt this as well.
Kakashi could ether get married or have a kid, which I doubt sence it has never shown kakashi with a women.
Some one close the kakashi could die, being ether gai, or and this one I am sure will get posts sasuke. (There is a thery going around that madara’s EMS was damaged by ether the 1st and 2nd or by controling the nine tails (as a cost for controling it) and he wants sasukes and itachi’s eyes to make a new pair.)
Well I live in Europe, US never had a king so, my country had a king for nearly 700 years, and at least here Dark Blue is related to noble people, the ones with “blue blood”. But I know in Japan purple is the colour of the Emperor. So I admit that being Hokage is not big deal to Kakashi, I don’t think kakashi gives importance to that, and Gai will not die, Kishi said in the interview “Lee doesn’t need to be grown up”, is Tsunade that will die.
So you admit that Madara needs Sasuke somehow as a boost of power lol. Of course the reason I believe Madara’s eyes aren’t a full strength is not that one as you know.
actualy daniel that was not my thery, I post posted one I read some where.
This is my thery, Madara is going to make sasuke take itachi’s eyes and give him the EMS, then he is going to use all the tailed beasts powers to turn sasuke into a girl, and then he is going to remake the uchiha clan and with both parents haveing the EMS the baby will be born with it. Madara will then transer a pure fighting instint into the strongist body, which he just created.
lol from my moms side they also said we descend from the french royal house when they went to exile, but I don’t give that much credit lol, I like my blood red.
I think I heard something about the Umland’s, they went to the US in the 70’s of nineteen century or something. Knickerbocker heard that name somewhere but don’t recall when sorry. But I didn’t even know for sure the genealogy of my family, but I think it was from a daughter of the younger prince (out of matrimony), that girl was left to be adopted in Portugal and she is the grandmother of my grandfather, lol it’s complicated.
But maybe because you have british and me french we have different views in many things loool, the rivalry never stops lool.
Well we are going of topic, people must be thinking “WTF are these guys doing” lol
Hm, the blue for Kakashi really could be anything. It could be peace, which could mean either happiness or death depending on perspective. It could be depression or sadness, which could be an unfortunate revelation or the death of someone close to him. I doubt its the death of someone close to him since he claims they are all already dead and the deaths of any of his recent students wouldn’t only affect Kakashi so Kishi wouldn’t mention it for that. It could mean he dyes his hair blue as a disguise or that the lower half of his face is actually blue. It could mean anything at all lol.
I doubt it will come into play any time soon, but I feel like the 2nd Hokage has had very little revealed about him. He always just seems to be next to the 1st in flashbacks as like a sidekick or something. I’d like to see some more about him.
The 2nd was the firsts little brother, of course he was a side kick to the first lol, but yeah your right not much was said about him, but I would rather learn about minato.
hey people. i had a theory about madara = tobi= obito. i thought that in order to see if my theory was right, i would have to compare Kakashi’s mangekyo sharingan with Obito’s. If they were the same pattern, then we could conclude that my theory was right. and also we can see if Madara has two sharingan eyes. in one of the chapters, madara took off his mask and only revealed his right eye. That led me to believe that Madara/Obito/Tobi are all the same person. what Kishi would have to do is give us a little bit more information, and if my theory is right, then i would like to know how Obito got out of those boulders in Kakashi Gaiden. tell me what you think!
Danzou’s betrayal was not noticed in the heat of the battle, now he was the only adviser, and along with Kakashi they’re the honorary leaders of the Leaf in the exile. Kakashi is very concerned with Uchiha Madara and his best friend, he taught dead. “How is it possible? Obito died beneath the rocks long ago, how he could still be alive and more, how could Uchiha Madara the founder of the Uchiha clan be alive too and using his friend’s body?” Those were some of the happenings concerning Kakashi. Naruto was also chocked to find out that Sasuke was siding with Akatsuki and that he attacked Konoha, he remembered the words of Itashi, “I got to find a way to defeat Akatsuki and bring Sasuke back” he remembers the power that Itashi gave him, the power to seal the Sharingan making the user blind forever, he didn’t wanted to do that to Sasuke. Finally they arrive to the Whirlpool Country, Naruto was already aware that his mother Kushina was born there, the frogs told him everything they knew about his parents, but he wouldn’t say much to other people, only Sakura and Kakashi, maybe Yamato and Sai too, he didn’t wanted people to respect him for being the 4th’s son, but because he would become the greatest Hokage ever living. His mother was from the Uzumaki clan, that ruled the Whirlpool, Kushina-hime, she was the daughter of their leader. When she was just a little girl, his Father, the 3rd Hokage and Feudal Lord of the Fire formed an alliance, they were both weakened by the wars, so they decided to join forces, in Konoha she met Minato, his father, but not all the whirlpool people went to Konoha, some of them decided to go to the Rain Country that was also near.
In the next morning the leaders had a meeting, there were, Danzou, Kakashi, Yamato, Naruto, Shizune and Sakura. Danzou was saying that this was Tsunade’s fault, she was too soft like Sarutobi, they didn’t protected Konoha as they should, he tried to kill Sasuke and Tsunade and her followers stopped him, now there he was, a traitor. Naruto and Sakura were about to get over him, Yamato and Kakashi stopped them.
Kakashi: “this is not the time to fight each others, we have to stay united. The leader of Akatsuki was in fact Madara and not the man Jiraya fought”
The others (except for Danzou): “!!!???”
Kakashi: “It’s hard to believe but it’s true, he managed to survive the Vote battle, and is still alive, and more, he is using some jutsu similar to Orochimaru, the body he now owns is not his original one, somehow he is using Uchiha Obito’s body”
(Yamato and Danzou):”!!!”
Naruto: “Who is him, Kakashi-sensei?”
Kakashi: “He was my team mate in Minato’s team, like you and Sasuke, I tough he was dead, but I suspect that he wants Sasuke now.”
Naruto: “What?! Another freak like Orochimaru? But then there must be a way to save that Obito and Sasuke”
Danzou: “Sasuke is a traitor, he is the enemy, must be killed as well”
Naruto: “Shut up old hag, I WILL save Sasuke no matter what”
Kakashi: “Enough!”
The leaders of the Sand enter the room.
(I’m working in the next Chapter: “Strategy” maybe)
For the ones who didn’t read Part I, if you want it’s in page 7 post no. 137.
Daniel your story makes little sence, do to the fact that there are anbu watching danzu, there is no way for him to make contact with madara, and you already know where I stand on tobito.
Ps people daniels storys are ment as fan fiction. Daniel is showing his creative side.
FanFiction=Fake
That should make sure no one thinks they are real.
Ps daniel as for your story, it is intresting in some ways, plauseable in others, and out right unplauable in other ways. It has a good mix of stuff, there are some parts that have you saying that might happen, and others that have you saying, there is no way that is possible. Points like those are what storys need, you might want to think about becomeing a writer or a manager.
Danzou can fool the ANBU, he operated in the shadows even after Sarutobi disbanded the Root division, and fact is Sai was not with the Konoha team at the same time Madara was in the forest alone.
About Minato, I didn’t say Minato couldn’t have made a better jutsu if he had more time. But I sticking to what we saw, and Madara’s space/time jutsu is better.
lool I didn’t saw that one, I like writing some times, and I even can draw a bit, the problem is I’m too lazy, like Shikamaru lool, so if I had to do some manga it would have to be with annual releases at least lol. I envy people like Kishi that can do so much in just one week.
And people, that he just my story for Naruto’s future. (Not necessarily wrong lol) but still just fanfiction.
We read your thery but daniel came up with the same thing awhile back, it is an intresting thery. But I am against the tobi useing obito’s body thery for many reasons that I am not going to post right now. Only problim is that right now there isn’t enought evidence to prove or disprove the thery.
July 2nd, 2008 at 8:56 pm
To azrael_chaos:
Good point there in post no. 145. I had posted the same idea but the damn comment does not appear. But since you did, that’s ok now.
To DeathWalker:
Where did you read that Jiraya killed the men that Pain is using? He just said “Shinobi I’ve met before” not killed. So as azreal said, all immortal jutsus use the same principle, other person lives and bodies or body’s parts. Hidan wasn’t really immortal, even Kakuzu said that there was not such thing. He performed a ritual and sacrificed the lives of shinobi he fought, it was his dogma, in other words his jutsu. The only exception was Nibi because Akatsuki goals were first.
Why Madara didn’t take Itashi’s body? Maybe because at first Itashi didn’t had the EMS and I think that’s what he want now, a Uchiha with EMS to recover his true power, that’s why he is keeping Itashi’s eyes for Sasuke. And second, because later Itashi got sick and as so he was discarded. Madara didn’t take an unknown Uchiha because it would be pointless to the story and for other reasons I said before. As for Dark Blue, it can mean anything, for example, in the west that colour represents royalty, but in Japan the colour of royalty is purple. I think Kishi said Dark Blue because that the colour Kakashi resembles most, like the Uchihas for Dark and Red.
Why don’t Kishi come out and say Madara is not using Obito’s body? Well maybe because he is, when people were speculating about Jiraya, if he was dead or not, he came out and said he was really dead, so why doesn’t he do the same with Obito? Think about that.
July 3rd, 2008 at 1:45 am
A few things, firstly I am in the west and dark blue is not royalty, purple is, not sure where you got that idea from. As for kishi it is possible he might not even know about the obito thery. When a person uses colors to describe a fight or a scene in a story it normaly means the moud of the said event. I live in Southern California, The west coast of the west, so you cant get much more west then I am.
A few other things I got from the interview, Naruto will most likely find out minato is his father and kakashi is probily going to be the one to tell him, hence here comes flash backs.
With kakashi anything could happen, he cold become hokage, it would fit, the 1st and 2nd trained the 3rd, the 3rd trained jeriah who turned hokage down, jeriah trained the 4th and the 4th trained kakashi who in turn trained naruto. But hokage isn’t realy kakashi’s style so I doubt it.
Kakashi could find out that tobi is obito (as submited by daniel) but I doubt this as well.
Kakashi could ether get married or have a kid, which I doubt sence it has never shown kakashi with a women.
Some one close the kakashi could die, being ether gai, or and this one I am sure will get posts sasuke. (There is a thery going around that madara’s EMS was damaged by ether the 1st and 2nd or by controling the nine tails (as a cost for controling it) and he wants sasukes and itachi’s eyes to make a new pair.)
July 3rd, 2008 at 2:00 am
To DeathWalker:
Well I live in Europe, US never had a king so, my country had a king for nearly 700 years, and at least here Dark Blue is related to noble people, the ones with “blue blood”. But I know in Japan purple is the colour of the Emperor. So I admit that being Hokage is not big deal to Kakashi, I don’t think kakashi gives importance to that, and Gai will not die, Kishi said in the interview “Lee doesn’t need to be grown up”, is Tsunade that will die.
So you admit that Madara needs Sasuke somehow as a boost of power lol. Of course the reason I believe Madara’s eyes aren’t a full strength is not that one as you know.
July 3rd, 2008 at 2:07 am
actualy daniel that was not my thery, I post posted one I read some where.
This is my thery, Madara is going to make sasuke take itachi’s eyes and give him the EMS, then he is going to use all the tailed beasts powers to turn sasuke into a girl, and then he is going to remake the uchiha clan and with both parents haveing the EMS the baby will be born with it. Madara will then transer a pure fighting instint into the strongist body, which he just created.
Wha ha ha ha ha ha ahhhh
July 3rd, 2008 at 2:09 am
Ps my family on dads side is from germany, sir name Umland
Moms Side is british I think but am not sure, side, Sir name Knickerbocker
July 3rd, 2008 at 2:15 am
looooool Sasuke becoming a girl would be great.
lol from my moms side they also said we descend from the french royal house when they went to exile, but I don’t give that much credit lol, I like my blood red.
July 3rd, 2008 at 4:06 am
Lol you have french blue blood, I have british blue blood, this is funny lol.
So have you ever heard of ether of the names, Umland, or knickerbocker?
July 3rd, 2008 at 4:35 am
I think I heard something about the Umland’s, they went to the US in the 70’s of nineteen century or something. Knickerbocker heard that name somewhere but don’t recall when sorry. But I didn’t even know for sure the genealogy of my family, but I think it was from a daughter of the younger prince (out of matrimony), that girl was left to be adopted in Portugal and she is the grandmother of my grandfather, lol it’s complicated.
But maybe because you have british and me french we have different views in many things loool, the rivalry never stops lool.
Well we are going of topic, people must be thinking “WTF are these guys doing” lol
July 3rd, 2008 at 8:19 am
To Daniel: Yeah lol. That about sums it upp just add an rofl.
July 3rd, 2008 at 8:44 am
Hm, the blue for Kakashi really could be anything. It could be peace, which could mean either happiness or death depending on perspective. It could be depression or sadness, which could be an unfortunate revelation or the death of someone close to him. I doubt its the death of someone close to him since he claims they are all already dead and the deaths of any of his recent students wouldn’t only affect Kakashi so Kishi wouldn’t mention it for that. It could mean he dyes his hair blue as a disguise or that the lower half of his face is actually blue. It could mean anything at all lol.
I doubt it will come into play any time soon, but I feel like the 2nd Hokage has had very little revealed about him. He always just seems to be next to the 1st in flashbacks as like a sidekick or something. I’d like to see some more about him.
July 3rd, 2008 at 9:28 am
The 2nd was the firsts little brother, of course he was a side kick to the first lol, but yeah your right not much was said about him, but I would rather learn about minato.
July 4th, 2008 at 1:55 am
hey people. i had a theory about madara = tobi= obito. i thought that in order to see if my theory was right, i would have to compare Kakashi’s mangekyo sharingan with Obito’s. If they were the same pattern, then we could conclude that my theory was right. and also we can see if Madara has two sharingan eyes. in one of the chapters, madara took off his mask and only revealed his right eye. That led me to believe that Madara/Obito/Tobi are all the same person. what Kishi would have to do is give us a little bit more information, and if my theory is right, then i would like to know how Obito got out of those boulders in Kakashi Gaiden.
tell me what you think!
July 4th, 2008 at 6:25 am
Naruto’s future Part II:
Danzou’s betrayal was not noticed in the heat of the battle, now he was the only adviser, and along with Kakashi they’re the honorary leaders of the Leaf in the exile. Kakashi is very concerned with Uchiha Madara and his best friend, he taught dead. “How is it possible? Obito died beneath the rocks long ago, how he could still be alive and more, how could Uchiha Madara the founder of the Uchiha clan be alive too and using his friend’s body?” Those were some of the happenings concerning Kakashi. Naruto was also chocked to find out that Sasuke was siding with Akatsuki and that he attacked Konoha, he remembered the words of Itashi, “I got to find a way to defeat Akatsuki and bring Sasuke back” he remembers the power that Itashi gave him, the power to seal the Sharingan making the user blind forever, he didn’t wanted to do that to Sasuke. Finally they arrive to the Whirlpool Country, Naruto was already aware that his mother Kushina was born there, the frogs told him everything they knew about his parents, but he wouldn’t say much to other people, only Sakura and Kakashi, maybe Yamato and Sai too, he didn’t wanted people to respect him for being the 4th’s son, but because he would become the greatest Hokage ever living. His mother was from the Uzumaki clan, that ruled the Whirlpool, Kushina-hime, she was the daughter of their leader. When she was just a little girl, his Father, the 3rd Hokage and Feudal Lord of the Fire formed an alliance, they were both weakened by the wars, so they decided to join forces, in Konoha she met Minato, his father, but not all the whirlpool people went to Konoha, some of them decided to go to the Rain Country that was also near.
In the next morning the leaders had a meeting, there were, Danzou, Kakashi, Yamato, Naruto, Shizune and Sakura. Danzou was saying that this was Tsunade’s fault, she was too soft like Sarutobi, they didn’t protected Konoha as they should, he tried to kill Sasuke and Tsunade and her followers stopped him, now there he was, a traitor. Naruto and Sakura were about to get over him, Yamato and Kakashi stopped them.
Kakashi: “this is not the time to fight each others, we have to stay united. The leader of Akatsuki was in fact Madara and not the man Jiraya fought”
The others (except for Danzou): “!!!???”
Kakashi: “It’s hard to believe but it’s true, he managed to survive the Vote battle, and is still alive, and more, he is using some jutsu similar to Orochimaru, the body he now owns is not his original one, somehow he is using Uchiha Obito’s body”
(Yamato and Danzou):”!!!”
Naruto: “Who is him, Kakashi-sensei?”
Kakashi: “He was my team mate in Minato’s team, like you and Sasuke, I tough he was dead, but I suspect that he wants Sasuke now.”
Naruto: “What?! Another freak like Orochimaru? But then there must be a way to save that Obito and Sasuke”
Danzou: “Sasuke is a traitor, he is the enemy, must be killed as well”
Naruto: “Shut up old hag, I WILL save Sasuke no matter what”
Kakashi: “Enough!”
The leaders of the Sand enter the room.
(I’m working in the next Chapter: “Strategy” maybe)
For the ones who didn’t read Part I, if you want it’s in page 7 post no. 137.
July 4th, 2008 at 7:04 am
Daniel your story makes little sence, do to the fact that there are anbu watching danzu, there is no way for him to make contact with madara, and you already know where I stand on tobito.
July 4th, 2008 at 7:09 am
Ps people daniels storys are ment as fan fiction. Daniel is showing his creative side.
FanFiction=Fake
That should make sure no one thinks they are real.
Ps daniel as for your story, it is intresting in some ways, plauseable in others, and out right unplauable in other ways. It has a good mix of stuff, there are some parts that have you saying that might happen, and others that have you saying, there is no way that is possible. Points like those are what storys need, you might want to think about becomeing a writer or a manager.
July 4th, 2008 at 7:13 am
To DeathWalker:
Danzou can fool the ANBU, he operated in the shadows even after Sarutobi disbanded the Root division, and fact is Sai was not with the Konoha team at the same time Madara was in the forest alone.
About Minato, I didn’t say Minato couldn’t have made a better jutsu if he had more time. But I sticking to what we saw, and Madara’s space/time jutsu is better.
July 4th, 2008 at 7:20 am
lool I didn’t saw that one, I like writing some times, and I even can draw a bit, the problem is I’m too lazy, like Shikamaru lool, so if I had to do some manga it would have to be with annual releases at least lol. I envy people like Kishi that can do so much in just one week.
And people, that he just my story for Naruto’s future. (Not necessarily wrong lol) but still just fanfiction.
July 4th, 2008 at 9:47 am
DEATHWALKER>>>>
what a silly theory you have,,,Sasuke to be a girl…my goodness…..
i cannot imagine,,,,,hahahaha
July 4th, 2008 at 9:50 am
no one was interested in my opinion!?!?
its comment 172.
July 4th, 2008 at 10:33 am
To Hinata
We read your thery but daniel came up with the same thing awhile back, it is an intresting thery. But I am against the tobi useing obito’s body thery for many reasons that I am not going to post right now. Only problim is that right now there isn’t enought evidence to prove or disprove the thery.