its me again, i know that Naruto will remember and tell exactly what the code meant. It will show Naruto the past and he will learn about his parents and read the book and then he will leave with the frogs. I dont even think the fox knows who Naruto dad is, so i guess others in the village will not remember as well. Just something to think about to all who keep asking why doesnt anyone tell Naruto about his past! Peace and God Bless!
To `jivZvOY :
Sorry, i don’t think Rinnegan is a Kekkei Genkai. I think it’s something unique. Maybe it “chooses” it’s host. If Rinnegan was a Kekkei Genkai then it it would very likely be a famous one. But it’s a legendary Doujutsu. Legendary means that many people believe it to be a legend.
Look at Uchiha and Sharingan. Both VERY famous. Then the Rinnegan, not many people know of it. If it was a blood line trait, there should have been more people with the Rinnegan (in Nagato’s own clan) and more people with Rinnegan will lead to more fame. So I think it’s unlikely that just one kid in a couple of centuries will unlock a bloodline trait. That’s just my opinion, though. Maybe it really is a kekkei Genkai. I guess we will discover more when the code is solved. I think it’s about pein and his Rinnegan, and how the Rinnegan works, what it is.
I have replied to you that the name stuff you found but the comment doesn’t appear so I will post it again.
It’s funny to confirm that in fact Tobi and Obito are not only spelt alike (anagram) but also writhed, and the name of Naruto and Minato also looks similar, maybe that’s because they both are related to whirlpool or maelstrom, Uzumaki and Namikaze (wind more water). Interesting stuff.
To Shikamaru and other people that is talking about Tobi:
Tobi IS Madara that is proven in the manga many times. What I think is that he is using Obito’s body, but that doesn’t mean he is not Madara (Orochimaru have taken many bodies but he is still Orochimaru), but again Shika, that’s just a theory, there is no proof that Madara is using Obito’s or his own body. So it’s up to what you believe.
Now about the Rinnegan, I don’t know if it is a Kekkei Genkai, but sure it is not a normal one that is passed trough the DNA to every descendent of Rikudou, if that was the case, the Rinnegan wouldn’t be legendary. But that also support my theory that maybe the real Pain is Rikudou, because like I said, Jiraya always called Pain “Nagato” but he wasn’t sure, so much that he sacrificed his life to discover Pain’s true identity.
Akatama here
Ok Im spaeking for my bff, (no computer) Gingan.She thinks be4 they crack the code kyuubi will tell naruto the past but wit a twist.(kinda like Madara telling Sasuke his past. I still think Madara Lied)
Well I think the seal above Kyuu’s cage is Minato’s spirte. please tell me im not insane (pweese)
Akatama = red sphere
Gingan = silver eyes
as of my opinion it does make sense if the rinnegan is past by the generation so its like the second coming of rikodou thru nagato or whomever pain is.
does anybody know how to get ahold of the demo game for naruto on the ps3?!?!?
to daniel:
about the whole rinnegan thing, maybe it could possibly be a kekkei genkai, and the clan that possessed the eye wuz killed off from the inside out jus like with the uchiha (history has an odd way of repeating itself) there where probably a view descendants that survived but there wuz a mystery as to wut happened to them (like the senju still remain) and over time the rinnegan eye jus became a legendary myth….after all didn’t the other two doujutsu eyes come after the development of this eye…everything is related to the Rikudou, and we still don’t know for sure how the sharigan and/or the byakugan were created/developed, they’re still a complete mystery…(the sharigan is jus a special ability of the uchiha and really not alotta them can possess the eye)
this is jus my opinion but maybe part of the reason minato never finishd rasengan wuz becuz of what the jutsu needed in order to be completed
it probably needed two elements, (wind and water), and then there is applying the elements to the jutsu, every ninja has one element that is naturally theirs and at least two other elements that they can tap into after intense training and mastering of that element, being so most shinobi have between two/three elements that they can control freely and w/ great perception depending on the shinobi’s abilities. Now for the ninjas that can use more than three, im betting that the further they push from their first 3 elements the less skilled they are in those areas…minato’s natural elements probably weren’t any of the required which would kinda explain why he couldn’t figure it out…his elements couldn’t be applied and when trying the other elements he wasn’t strong enough in it to pursue…
To daniel, yeah I didn’t find the name stuff some where, I needed to install the japenese language pack to install a few games I DLed, Ohhhhh I mean to look at some websites, ummmm no I mean umm for some unmintioned reason and I just typed them out lol
To everyone :
i have reread the comics showing the fight between jirayia and pain and i have 2 ideas about the CODE
1. I doubt that the code refers to pages in Jirayia’s book because jiraya wrote the book more then 15 years ago(it is older then naruto because when minato reads it naruto was still a baby ).So given the fact that it is old i dont think J-man would actually remember the exact pages from it when he just lost his left arm and was in the heath of battle.
2. If the CODE is actually pages from his book(somehow he managed to remember it exactly ) i dont think it is about pain. When he wrote the code he already head one of pain’s bodies so why write 7 numbers if there were only 6 bodies left????? Also the small numbers 7,8,9,15 cant be about the sinobi that pein used as bodies because in a traveling book he should have started by describing the location from where he left (the old frog told him to write about the balance of nature) and he must have written about minato, his best student so that would include baby naruto. And if things are like this naruto will find out who he really is and that would be the logical thing to happen
Can someone please explain the power of the rinnegan as far as I can tell the only information that was given in the manga about the rinnegan is that it’s the most powerful eye technique. IMO This is the secret of Pein’s technique. As far as I can figure the Rinnegan or “transmigration” eye or sometimes called “metempsychosis” eye is referred to as reincarnation or rebirth. Lets take a closer look, Transmigration of the soul (sometimes given simply as Transmigration) is a philosophy of reincarnation incorporating the specific belief that after death, the soul of a living being is then transferred (or transmigrates) into another living form and thus takes birth again. Pein used his rinnegan to transfer his soul into multiple copies of himself thus making him somewhat of an immortal. I’m guessing that in order to kill pein you must kill all of his copies at once. That’s why he initially fought Jiraiya with just the one summoning copy to match Jiraiya’s ninjitsu strength which was summoning, when he realize Jiraiya was more powerful and use other ninjitsu techniques such as toad mode he summon two other copies but never revealing all of his copies until the very end for fear that if Jiraiya fought all of them at the same time he would have eventually figured out a way to kill them all thus killing pein forever. That’s why at the end, pein said and I quote “If he knew our secret we would have died” Some how Jiraiya has sent the secret back to Konoho. I think the code that was sent back to Konoho is for the Konoho Library. It shows the location of the books in the library that, perhaps Jiraiya wrote himself . Remember the Toad Sage said he’d go around the world and write books, he didn’t say he’d only write pervy books, even thought it’s said those were his top sellers.
Akatsuki and Taka along with the Rain Country and the Sea Country, are planning to attack and destroy Konoha, the defeat of Konoha along with the Sand will be the ultimate show of strength of Madara and Pain to the rest of the Ninja World. Controlling four countries and all the Bijuu, they plan to control all the rest trough fear. But of course these will not happen.
Meanwhile Sasuke is searching for the 8 tailed Bijuu and Pain for Naruto, Naruto will go train with the frogs, learning to control Kyuubi’s chakra and than the jutsu in the Scroll that Minato and Jiraya left him. When his training is almost complete Pain catch up with Naruto and they fight, with the help of the frogs they are able to make Pain leave but Pa and Ma die in that battle. Sasuke capture the 8 tails. Naruto is able to complete the jutsu alone and gets back to Konoha. Pain failing for the first time, inform Madara that he couldn’t get the fox, and Madara decides to attack Konoha without the 9 tails, pretending to capture Naruto himself during the fight.
Madara along with his allies start the attack in Konoha, Danzou reveals himself has a traitor and lure Tsunade to meet Pain alone, they fight and Pain kills her. Sasuke is trying to get to the Elders and Danzou but there are too much people in the way, both ANBU and ANBU ne, meanwhile Kakashi is fighting Madara, Madara beats him but Kakashi with his last desperate move rips the mask off, and there is Obito’s face, Kakashi ask him if he is Obito. Madara tell him, he is no other then Uchiha Madara, but that body belongs to a boy he found 17/18 years ago, near dead under the rocks in the Country of Grass, at the time he had developed the immortal jutsu and because he was too old to take a grown up Uchiha, that boy came to be very useful but soon he will get a stronger one. After a little chat Madara goes for the killing move, Naruto arrives with the entire Sand and the Frogs as back up. During this, Sasuke is able to kill the Elders. The rest of the Konoha people escapes trough the secret passages used once during Orochimaru’s attack, and the remain forces manage to escape with the help of Naruto and the backups, with nowhere to go the frogs recommend the former Whirlpool Country to hide.
Lol Daniel when are you going to give up on that thery, your story dosen’t make sence for the simple fact that tobi is not the type to get his own hands dirty, when have you seen tobi get into a fight in the manga, and I mean when did you actualy see him attack some one, he never actualy attacked sasuke and he didn’t attack the leaf ninja’s. You need to learn that madara is not orchumaru no matter how great orchumaru was, if madara took bodys like orchumaru did it would only serve to make the naruto story cheap and repeative.
To Daniel: You forgott something, Orochimaru is still out there and for the remainder of this year the Manga will focus on Sasuke. We know Naruto’s gonna go train with the sages soon and I’d say whats most probable is that Sasukes attack on Konoha will occur within the next 20 eps. Andit will probably last a long time with alot of talk. But there’s still alot more left of the year, so I’d say there will be more action with Orochimaruo comming upp later on (as a filler). He could maybe even be going after Itatchis corpse. The Sannin are getting weak in comparason with the other villains so Oro will need some form of power upp before he can become the kick ass threat he used to be. Imagine, Orochimarus hydra tecnique, all heads of the Hydra with the sharingan. THAT would be a real boost in power, even if it’s the weakest sharingan possible. But that’s just a plot twist, in either case, why are you obsessing about that Jutsu? The only jutsus in that scroll are how to open the seal of the kyubi and how to close it. They don’t ever say anything about some weapon/defense. Beeing able to open and seal the kyubis prison is a jutsu of it’s own. If Naruto can constantly open/close the flow of the Kyubis chackra to the point he can controle it, it would already be a tremendous power boost.
We didn’t saw Madara fighting until now, because it’s too earlier to show his power, he will have to fight at some point so. And course I don’t give up in my theory yet lol. About being cheap I don’t agree, a little repetitive but that happens with manga, look for example DB, there were more than one guy with the ability to absord or possesses other bodies.
To TheVindicator:
I didn’t forget Orochimaru, this is just the 1st chapter, he will come up sooner lol.
July 1st, 2008 at 5:33 am
its me again, i know that Naruto will remember and tell exactly what the code meant. It will show Naruto the past and he will learn about his parents and read the book and then he will leave with the frogs. I dont even think the fox knows who Naruto dad is, so i guess others in the village will not remember as well. Just something to think about to all who keep asking why doesnt anyone tell Naruto about his past! Peace and God Bless!
July 1st, 2008 at 5:52 am
To `jivZvOY :
Sorry, i don’t think Rinnegan is a Kekkei Genkai. I think it’s something unique. Maybe it “chooses” it’s host. If Rinnegan was a Kekkei Genkai then it it would very likely be a famous one. But it’s a legendary Doujutsu. Legendary means that many people believe it to be a legend.
Look at Uchiha and Sharingan. Both VERY famous. Then the Rinnegan, not many people know of it. If it was a blood line trait, there should have been more people with the Rinnegan (in Nagato’s own clan) and more people with Rinnegan will lead to more fame. So I think it’s unlikely that just one kid in a couple of centuries will unlock a bloodline trait. That’s just my opinion, though. Maybe it really is a kekkei Genkai. I guess we will discover more when the code is solved. I think it’s about pein and his Rinnegan, and how the Rinnegan works, what it is.
July 1st, 2008 at 6:32 am
Guys Tobi is Madara and even daniel admits that (with a body exception). Don’t post that he is not when the manga has already said he is.
July 1st, 2008 at 7:22 am
To DeathWalker:
I have replied to you that the name stuff you found but the comment doesn’t appear so I will post it again.
It’s funny to confirm that in fact Tobi and Obito are not only spelt alike (anagram) but also writhed, and the name of Naruto and Minato also looks similar, maybe that’s because they both are related to whirlpool or maelstrom, Uzumaki and Namikaze (wind more water). Interesting stuff.
To Shikamaru and other people that is talking about Tobi:
Tobi IS Madara that is proven in the manga many times. What I think is that he is using Obito’s body, but that doesn’t mean he is not Madara (Orochimaru have taken many bodies but he is still Orochimaru), but again Shika, that’s just a theory, there is no proof that Madara is using Obito’s or his own body. So it’s up to what you believe.
Now about the Rinnegan, I don’t know if it is a Kekkei Genkai, but sure it is not a normal one that is passed trough the DNA to every descendent of Rikudou, if that was the case, the Rinnegan wouldn’t be legendary. But that also support my theory that maybe the real Pain is Rikudou, because like I said, Jiraya always called Pain “Nagato” but he wasn’t sure, so much that he sacrificed his life to discover Pain’s true identity.
July 1st, 2008 at 10:19 am
man this is getting intense not knowing what that message is and what it has do wit naruto but well we will see how that unfolds in the future
July 1st, 2008 at 10:55 am
Akatama here
Ok Im spaeking for my bff, (no computer) Gingan.She thinks be4 they crack the code kyuubi will tell naruto the past but wit a twist.(kinda like Madara telling Sasuke his past. I still think Madara Lied)
Well I think the seal above Kyuu’s cage is Minato’s spirte. please tell me im not insane (pweese)
Akatama = red sphere
Gingan = silver eyes
July 1st, 2008 at 12:14 pm
tobi’s body could be either of the two ayt.
i support daniel the rikodou theory.
as of my opinion it does make sense if the rinnegan is past by the generation so its like the second coming of rikodou thru nagato or whomever pain is.
July 1st, 2008 at 1:42 pm
to all:
does anybody know how to get ahold of the demo game for naruto on the ps3?!?!?
to daniel:
about the whole rinnegan thing, maybe it could possibly be a kekkei genkai, and the clan that possessed the eye wuz killed off from the inside out jus like with the uchiha (history has an odd way of repeating itself) there where probably a view descendants that survived but there wuz a mystery as to wut happened to them (like the senju still remain) and over time the rinnegan eye jus became a legendary myth….after all didn’t the other two doujutsu eyes come after the development of this eye…everything is related to the Rikudou, and we still don’t know for sure how the sharigan and/or the byakugan were created/developed, they’re still a complete mystery…(the sharigan is jus a special ability of the uchiha and really not alotta them can possess the eye)
this is jus my opinion but maybe part of the reason minato never finishd rasengan wuz becuz of what the jutsu needed in order to be completed
it probably needed two elements, (wind and water), and then there is applying the elements to the jutsu, every ninja has one element that is naturally theirs and at least two other elements that they can tap into after intense training and mastering of that element, being so most shinobi have between two/three elements that they can control freely and w/ great perception depending on the shinobi’s abilities. Now for the ninjas that can use more than three, im betting that the further they push from their first 3 elements the less skilled they are in those areas…minato’s natural elements probably weren’t any of the required which would kinda explain why he couldn’t figure it out…his elements couldn’t be applied and when trying the other elements he wasn’t strong enough in it to pursue…
gotta go
July 1st, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Sigh this is such a cliff hanger!
July 1st, 2008 at 3:21 pm
To daniel, yeah I didn’t find the name stuff some where, I needed to install the japenese language pack to install a few games I DLed, Ohhhhh I mean to look at some websites, ummmm no I mean umm for some unmintioned reason and I just typed them out lol
July 1st, 2008 at 5:18 pm
hey to everyone… when do you think naruto will end? this year? or next year? and… after madara and pein… will new enemies come up? what do ya think?
July 1st, 2008 at 8:16 pm
4 years for sure!
July 1st, 2008 at 8:33 pm
i think its like dragon ball, a long2x story..heheh
July 1st, 2008 at 8:49 pm
naruto shipuudden the movie is awesome!!!! watch it guys!!!!
the best naruto movie@@@@
July 1st, 2008 at 9:01 pm
To everyone :
i have reread the comics showing the fight between jirayia and pain and i have 2 ideas about the CODE
1. I doubt that the code refers to pages in Jirayia’s book because jiraya wrote the book more then 15 years ago(it is older then naruto because when minato reads it naruto was still a baby ).So given the fact that it is old i dont think J-man would actually remember the exact pages from it when he just lost his left arm and was in the heath of battle.
2. If the CODE is actually pages from his book(somehow he managed to remember it exactly ) i dont think it is about pain. When he wrote the code he already head one of pain’s bodies so why write 7 numbers if there were only 6 bodies left????? Also the small numbers 7,8,9,15 cant be about the sinobi that pein used as bodies because in a traveling book he should have started by describing the location from where he left (the old frog told him to write about the balance of nature) and he must have written about minato, his best student so that would include baby naruto. And if things are like this naruto will find out who he really is and that would be the logical thing to happen
July 1st, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Can someone please explain the power of the rinnegan as far as I can tell the only information that was given in the manga about the rinnegan is that it’s the most powerful eye technique. IMO This is the secret of Pein’s technique. As far as I can figure the Rinnegan or “transmigration” eye or sometimes called “metempsychosis” eye is referred to as reincarnation or rebirth. Lets take a closer look, Transmigration of the soul (sometimes given simply as Transmigration) is a philosophy of reincarnation incorporating the specific belief that after death, the soul of a living being is then transferred (or transmigrates) into another living form and thus takes birth again. Pein used his rinnegan to transfer his soul into multiple copies of himself thus making him somewhat of an immortal. I’m guessing that in order to kill pein you must kill all of his copies at once. That’s why he initially fought Jiraiya with just the one summoning copy to match Jiraiya’s ninjitsu strength which was summoning, when he realize Jiraiya was more powerful and use other ninjitsu techniques such as toad mode he summon two other copies but never revealing all of his copies until the very end for fear that if Jiraiya fought all of them at the same time he would have eventually figured out a way to kill them all thus killing pein forever. That’s why at the end, pein said and I quote “If he knew our secret we would have died” Some how Jiraiya has sent the secret back to Konoho. I think the code that was sent back to Konoho is for the Konoho Library. It shows the location of the books in the library that, perhaps Jiraiya wrote himself . Remember the Toad Sage said he’d go around the world and write books, he didn’t say he’d only write pervy books, even thought it’s said those were his top sellers.
July 2nd, 2008 at 1:57 am
Naruto’s future Part I:
Akatsuki and Taka along with the Rain Country and the Sea Country, are planning to attack and destroy Konoha, the defeat of Konoha along with the Sand will be the ultimate show of strength of Madara and Pain to the rest of the Ninja World. Controlling four countries and all the Bijuu, they plan to control all the rest trough fear. But of course these will not happen.
Meanwhile Sasuke is searching for the 8 tailed Bijuu and Pain for Naruto, Naruto will go train with the frogs, learning to control Kyuubi’s chakra and than the jutsu in the Scroll that Minato and Jiraya left him. When his training is almost complete Pain catch up with Naruto and they fight, with the help of the frogs they are able to make Pain leave but Pa and Ma die in that battle. Sasuke capture the 8 tails. Naruto is able to complete the jutsu alone and gets back to Konoha. Pain failing for the first time, inform Madara that he couldn’t get the fox, and Madara decides to attack Konoha without the 9 tails, pretending to capture Naruto himself during the fight.
Madara along with his allies start the attack in Konoha, Danzou reveals himself has a traitor and lure Tsunade to meet Pain alone, they fight and Pain kills her. Sasuke is trying to get to the Elders and Danzou but there are too much people in the way, both ANBU and ANBU ne, meanwhile Kakashi is fighting Madara, Madara beats him but Kakashi with his last desperate move rips the mask off, and there is Obito’s face, Kakashi ask him if he is Obito. Madara tell him, he is no other then Uchiha Madara, but that body belongs to a boy he found 17/18 years ago, near dead under the rocks in the Country of Grass, at the time he had developed the immortal jutsu and because he was too old to take a grown up Uchiha, that boy came to be very useful but soon he will get a stronger one. After a little chat Madara goes for the killing move, Naruto arrives with the entire Sand and the Frogs as back up. During this, Sasuke is able to kill the Elders. The rest of the Konoha people escapes trough the secret passages used once during Orochimaru’s attack, and the remain forces manage to escape with the help of Naruto and the backups, with nowhere to go the frogs recommend the former Whirlpool Country to hide.
(I’m working in the “Chapter”)
July 2nd, 2008 at 2:14 am
Lol Daniel when are you going to give up on that thery, your story dosen’t make sence for the simple fact that tobi is not the type to get his own hands dirty, when have you seen tobi get into a fight in the manga, and I mean when did you actualy see him attack some one, he never actualy attacked sasuke and he didn’t attack the leaf ninja’s. You need to learn that madara is not orchumaru no matter how great orchumaru was, if madara took bodys like orchumaru did it would only serve to make the naruto story cheap and repeative.
July 2nd, 2008 at 2:30 am
To Daniel: You forgott something, Orochimaru is still out there and for the remainder of this year the Manga will focus on Sasuke. We know Naruto’s gonna go train with the sages soon and I’d say whats most probable is that Sasukes attack on Konoha will occur within the next 20 eps. Andit will probably last a long time with alot of talk. But there’s still alot more left of the year, so I’d say there will be more action with Orochimaruo comming upp later on (as a filler). He could maybe even be going after Itatchis corpse. The Sannin are getting weak in comparason with the other villains so Oro will need some form of power upp before he can become the kick ass threat he used to be. Imagine, Orochimarus hydra tecnique, all heads of the Hydra with the sharingan. THAT would be a real boost in power, even if it’s the weakest sharingan possible. But that’s just a plot twist, in either case, why are you obsessing about that Jutsu? The only jutsus in that scroll are how to open the seal of the kyubi and how to close it. They don’t ever say anything about some weapon/defense. Beeing able to open and seal the kyubis prison is a jutsu of it’s own. If Naruto can constantly open/close the flow of the Kyubis chackra to the point he can controle it, it would already be a tremendous power boost.
July 2nd, 2008 at 2:42 am
To DeathWalker:
We didn’t saw Madara fighting until now, because it’s too earlier to show his power, he will have to fight at some point so. And course I don’t give up in my theory yet lol. About being cheap I don’t agree, a little repetitive but that happens with manga, look for example DB, there were more than one guy with the ability to absord or possesses other bodies.
To TheVindicator:
I didn’t forget Orochimaru, this is just the 1st chapter, he will come up sooner lol.