Just because Naruto is the revolutionary and because he will change the Ninja World, doesn’t mean he will rule it all, I really don’t see for example Naruto overthrown Gaara to rule the sand. He already changed the sand (Gaara, Temari, Kakurou maybe even Baki, Chiyo) and still he is not Kazekage, get my point? He doesn’t need to rule to make the change, his dream is Hokage not world domination.
And I tell you again, Sasuke will not die (unfortunately), what Hashirama and Jiraya really wanted was not kill Madara and Orochimaru, they wanted to save them, but because they were really evil, they gave up in their friends and tried to kill them also failed, even in this chapter naruto said he will find a way to protect Konoha and save Sasuke, not kill him. And that’s also why Itashi gave him power. The story repeated itself until now, but revolution also means breaking the circle, and Naruto will do it, he will save Sasuke and become Hokage.
Just because Naruto is the revolutionary and because he will change the Ninja World, doesn’t mean he will rule it all, I really don’t see for example Naruto overthrown Gaara to rule the sand. He already changed the sand (Gaara, Temari, Kakurou maybe even Baki, Chiyo) and still he is not Kazekage, get my point? He doesn’t need to rule to make the change, his dream is Hokage not world domination.
And I tell you again, Sasuke will not die (unfortunately), what Hashirama and Jiraya really wanted was not kill Madara and Orochimaru, they wanted to save them, but because they were really evil, they gave up in their friends and tried to kill them also failed, even in this chapter Naruto said he will find a way to protect Konoha and save Sasuke, not kill him. And that’s also why Itashi gave him power. The story repeated itself until now, but revolution also means breaking the circle, and Naruto will do it, he will save Sasuke and become Hokage, the greatest ever (that’s what is more).
I think its some power which may unleash the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox inside him and allow naruto to control the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox so naruto can use the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox to protect Konoha from foe like Orochimaru, Akatsuki.
(jman is short for Jiraya, if anyone was wondering).
Jman had the key to unleash the nine tails chackra, I think it’s realy safe to assume that Minato intended for Naruto to use that power. Otherwise he could just have sealed it away int he death god’s stomach, as Sarutobi tried to do against Orochimaru. With that assumption made, it paves way to two possibilitys.
1) The 4:th new what Itatchi would do and planned for it, thus Itatchi gave Naruto the powers to control the Kyubi.
2) There are other ways to control the Kyubi save for the Uchia powers.
If we go with possibility one (wich I don’t find very likly) it would either mean that Naruto would get the evil chackra of the Uchia to control the Kyubi with, or that he will get the Sharingan itself and thus use it. And that would only be possible if he can make eye contact witht he Kyubi, wich would be hard beeing that it’s inside him. Although naruto interacts with the Kyubi inside of him, he’s actualy not there. It’s more like a self made symbiosis genjtusu (sounds stupid, I know. But not sure how to explain it) or an spiritual interaction. He can’t actualy use techniques in there.
If it’s the Uchia chackra that can controle the kyubi, and not the eyes, there are probably complex seals involved and merly doing (especialy since he didn’t get all Itatchis powers) would drain naruto terribly. Despite his boosts of strenght, that and adding the damage caused form using the Kyubi and beeing healed would be fatal rather fast, even faster than Jman predicted.
But there’s another interesting thing to it, if it was the Uchia chakra that was transfered from Itatchi, wouldn’t Naruto get the ability to learn and use the same Jutsus and elements as Itatchi? Cause that would be realy awesome.
2) If there are other ways to controle the Kyubi, it’s probably related to the key toad Jman summoned. The one he used for opening up a small crack of the Kyubis prison. I’d say what Jman did there is what’s weakening the seal, cause it has only got up to 4 tails no matter how mad Naruto got, and thats how much Jman opend it. But thats a bit off topic. Anyways, the toads are clearly related to Naruto, not only are they his choice of summon. But jman and Minatos aswell. And they where the ones that fortold the prophecy of Jmans student ruening/saving the world and all. But, why wouldn’t Jiraya had given it to Naruto while they where training then? It could be that Naruto isn’t strong enough yet, but that doesn’t sound like a way to approach Naruto when training him. Just like when he Jiraya tried to learn Naruto the Rasengan, an incredebly hard jutsu to master and he really pulled it off. So I don’t think the Jman would delibretly hold back Narutos power. So a conlosion there is that Jman doesn’t know how to controle the Kyubis chackre, and nor does the toads. It would be very characteristic of a galliant man as Minato to not only leave his herritage for naruto to find, but also that of his mother. Thus the former country of wirlpools. Whatever that is. Suffice to say, should 2) be the right theory, Minato has (as we’ve seen) left the key to unleash the Kyubi on his side (the toads) and the key to controle it on his mothers side (the country of wirlpools) to let naruto embrace what both his parents was (or is? I don’t know what happend to narutos mother, I think she’s dead though).
I either case, this is how far I can predict. And I can’t say what way it will go. But I find the second possibility to be more likly.
What do you guys think? Daniel? GameBoy?
^_^
Ps. http://www.inaruto.net/naruto/naruto-chapter-383/1/
The numbers Jiraya left are
9.31.8
106.7
207.15
These can’t realy be coordinates, so it reinfoces the theory that minato left whatever Naruto needs to controle the Kyubi on his mothers side, and that this isn’t coordinates to the country of whirpools as someone guessed. I’d say it’s a code for a name or a name of a jutsu, revaling what/how pain came to be. But that’s just a wild guess.
XIaoyu: I find it on Wikipedia.org a while back by misstake. Tried to find it again for you but there are so many Naruto articles there and they are very poorly organized so I don’t have time atm. If you remind me later I’ll see what I can do.
i think the power itachi gave naruto is tykoumi. he gave his brother that black fire jutsu and gave naruto the genjutus knowing it would have the most effect on sasake
Yes it’s definitely the eyes not the chakra, what kyuubi said was that the Sharingan was a curse of an entire clan, and their chakra even sinister than his own. That would explain why they always fail, they are cursed. Anyway it’s the eyes that hold the control over the fox, Itashi said that was the secret of the MS.
About the first option. I don’t think is that, when Minato died, like I said Itashi was just 5 years old. I seriously doubt that Minato would think of him. And I doubt that Itashi passed his chakra to Naruto. Naruto already have enough chakra, he doesn’t need the curse of the Uchihas which would make him fail in the end, and if Itashi did that how could he fight Sasuke? I’m still thinking it is a sealing technique.
About the second option, I like the idea of Naruto going to the whirlpool to learn how to control the fox chakra. But Kyuubi was always connected to Konoha and the Fire Country, not Whirlpool (even if I think Whirlpool now belongs to the fire country, I already explained why), and I think Naruto is the one who needs to control the fox be himself, he doesn’t need anyone power to do that, he can already control 3 tails, he only lose control when he get angry and mad, so he have to control his emotions and command the fox like he did in the beginning.
That code is definitely related to Pain’s identity, its a message to Konoha and Tsunade, not to Naruto personally. That was left in the Scroll.
To DeathWalker:
My reply to you about that Hokage stuff is in moderation sorry.
to TheVindicator
and you are right the uchias control the kyubi with the eyes but i think only with the ems still i need to suport my teory and see about it
Lol my reply is in moderation right now, I know naruto said he was going to become hokage to change stuff in his fight with neji, but as I said, as time passes naruto changes, he dosen’t even talk about hokage anymore.
I didnt want to do this, but if the next couple of chapters keep being crap like the ones ive been reading, im just gonna quit the whole series. Im still reading other mangas now, so it wont be much of a problem. Its just that i like how the series was going, i thought it would be much better as time passed, but it got worse.
Now an Uchiha just gave the protagonist extra power. Do you know what this means? Kishi just destroyed the main character, and the main character’s purpose in the series. He was supposed to work hard to achieve his dream. He has kyuubi, as an extra boost, something he would eventually have better control over. So his advantage was okay, and understandable. But now he gets extra boost from someone, an uchiha.
We have been seeing so much of uchihas and how they are so much of a power hax. Now the ones with sharingan, the rival of the kyuubi, gave naruto power. Does that thing make sense now? Narutos rival is sasuke. Sasukes main power is sharingan. Narutos main is kyuubi. Now naruto just got extra help from an uchiha with sharingan, he gave naruto an extra boost, some more power.
This just shows how crappy kishi just made the protagonist. In the whole elapsed time after the timeskip, naruto didnt learn crap. He learned more in one week with kakashi than that whole time with jiraya. He made sasuke god level. At first when sasuke lost curse seal, i was like, okay, maybe its kinda even now. Then sasuke got amaterasu and that special eye. Its hopeless for naruto.
Naruto would get stronger than sasuke eventually, but it would be so stupid. He just got some extra power from an uchiha, he already has the power of kyuubi as well. Then he also has the key that he will get soon, to give him extra strength. Naruto is one of my faves, but kishi made it so stupid on how naruto would surpass sasuke.
Im such a naruto (the series, anime and manga) fan. I play the video games and such. But if the next couple of chapters are trashy like these, im gonna have to quit on the series. ALL my friends who were a naruto fan, instantly quit the series after 396. I may quit too. I hope not. Because i want to get the next naruto game for the psp. I would hate to quit being a naruto fan.
Anyways, thanks for reading this big boring speech. Lets all pray that the next few chapters wont be a disappointment. lol, sasuke getting powers by a poke on his forehead. Naruto getting power by getting choked by a crow. What next? This series was about how hard work helps accomplish someones goal. But if people keep getting extra boosts like this, it just contradicts the series itself.
Additionally, kishi just made a big mistake. The databook was wrong about amaterasu and alot of things. It said kurenaii had the same level genjutsu as itachi. Now im not an uchiha fan. But i still know that this is impossible. Databook also said itachi was in akatsuki after he left konoha, and even the latest manga chapters said that too. But i made an essay PROVING that he was in akatsuki at age 11. The math and everything fit in the timeline, so kishi messed up on the naruto timeline as well. So basically kishis just crashing now. I actually think the naruto series wont even finish, since kishi is making so much mistakes. Later guys.
to DeathWalker
look.. the ninja way of naruto is never go back in his word got it? then when he says that he will trun into hakage he says to that he not go back in his world of reach hokage.. i dont need too see if they say it or not.. is just the personality of one char and kishimoto dont go changes naruto personality (i think at leats and if he does he does it wrong (sry kishiiiiiiimotoooooooooooooo))
June 8th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
To DeathWalker:
Just because Naruto is the revolutionary and because he will change the Ninja World, doesn’t mean he will rule it all, I really don’t see for example Naruto overthrown Gaara to rule the sand. He already changed the sand (Gaara, Temari, Kakurou maybe even Baki, Chiyo) and still he is not Kazekage, get my point? He doesn’t need to rule to make the change, his dream is Hokage not world domination.
And I tell you again, Sasuke will not die (unfortunately), what Hashirama and Jiraya really wanted was not kill Madara and Orochimaru, they wanted to save them, but because they were really evil, they gave up in their friends and tried to kill them also failed, even in this chapter naruto said he will find a way to protect Konoha and save Sasuke, not kill him. And that’s also why Itashi gave him power. The story repeated itself until now, but revolution also means breaking the circle, and Naruto will do it, he will save Sasuke and become Hokage.
June 8th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
To TheVindicator:
Never said it wasn’t, I said he “isn’t”.
June 8th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
To Evrybody
So nobody know ? arff
June 8th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
To DeathWalker:
Just because Naruto is the revolutionary and because he will change the Ninja World, doesn’t mean he will rule it all, I really don’t see for example Naruto overthrown Gaara to rule the sand. He already changed the sand (Gaara, Temari, Kakurou maybe even Baki, Chiyo) and still he is not Kazekage, get my point? He doesn’t need to rule to make the change, his dream is Hokage not world domination.
And I tell you again, Sasuke will not die (unfortunately), what Hashirama and Jiraya really wanted was not kill Madara and Orochimaru, they wanted to save them, but because they were really evil, they gave up in their friends and tried to kill them also failed, even in this chapter Naruto said he will find a way to protect Konoha and save Sasuke, not kill him. And that’s also why Itashi gave him power. The story repeated itself until now, but revolution also means breaking the circle, and Naruto will do it, he will save Sasuke and become Hokage, the greatest ever (that’s what is more).
June 8th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
I think its some power which may unleash the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox inside him and allow naruto to control the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox so naruto can use the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox to protect Konoha from foe like Orochimaru, Akatsuki.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:32 am
To Daniel:
^_^
June 9th, 2008 at 1:53 am
(jman is short for Jiraya, if anyone was wondering).
Jman had the key to unleash the nine tails chackra, I think it’s realy safe to assume that Minato intended for Naruto to use that power. Otherwise he could just have sealed it away int he death god’s stomach, as Sarutobi tried to do against Orochimaru. With that assumption made, it paves way to two possibilitys.
1) The 4:th new what Itatchi would do and planned for it, thus Itatchi gave Naruto the powers to control the Kyubi.
2) There are other ways to control the Kyubi save for the Uchia powers.
If we go with possibility one (wich I don’t find very likly) it would either mean that Naruto would get the evil chackra of the Uchia to control the Kyubi with, or that he will get the Sharingan itself and thus use it. And that would only be possible if he can make eye contact witht he Kyubi, wich would be hard beeing that it’s inside him. Although naruto interacts with the Kyubi inside of him, he’s actualy not there. It’s more like a self made symbiosis genjtusu (sounds stupid, I know. But not sure how to explain it) or an spiritual interaction. He can’t actualy use techniques in there.
If it’s the Uchia chackra that can controle the kyubi, and not the eyes, there are probably complex seals involved and merly doing (especialy since he didn’t get all Itatchis powers) would drain naruto terribly. Despite his boosts of strenght, that and adding the damage caused form using the Kyubi and beeing healed would be fatal rather fast, even faster than Jman predicted.
But there’s another interesting thing to it, if it was the Uchia chakra that was transfered from Itatchi, wouldn’t Naruto get the ability to learn and use the same Jutsus and elements as Itatchi? Cause that would be realy awesome.
2) If there are other ways to controle the Kyubi, it’s probably related to the key toad Jman summoned. The one he used for opening up a small crack of the Kyubis prison. I’d say what Jman did there is what’s weakening the seal, cause it has only got up to 4 tails no matter how mad Naruto got, and thats how much Jman opend it. But thats a bit off topic. Anyways, the toads are clearly related to Naruto, not only are they his choice of summon. But jman and Minatos aswell. And they where the ones that fortold the prophecy of Jmans student ruening/saving the world and all. But, why wouldn’t Jiraya had given it to Naruto while they where training then? It could be that Naruto isn’t strong enough yet, but that doesn’t sound like a way to approach Naruto when training him. Just like when he Jiraya tried to learn Naruto the Rasengan, an incredebly hard jutsu to master and he really pulled it off. So I don’t think the Jman would delibretly hold back Narutos power. So a conlosion there is that Jman doesn’t know how to controle the Kyubis chackre, and nor does the toads. It would be very characteristic of a galliant man as Minato to not only leave his herritage for naruto to find, but also that of his mother. Thus the former country of wirlpools. Whatever that is. Suffice to say, should 2) be the right theory, Minato has (as we’ve seen) left the key to unleash the Kyubi on his side (the toads) and the key to controle it on his mothers side (the country of wirlpools) to let naruto embrace what both his parents was (or is? I don’t know what happend to narutos mother, I think she’s dead though).
I either case, this is how far I can predict. And I can’t say what way it will go. But I find the second possibility to be more likly.
What do you guys think? Daniel? GameBoy?
^_^
Ps. http://www.inaruto.net/naruto/naruto-chapter-383/1/
The numbers Jiraya left are
9.31.8
106.7
207.15
These can’t realy be coordinates, so it reinfoces the theory that minato left whatever Naruto needs to controle the Kyubi on his mothers side, and that this isn’t coordinates to the country of whirpools as someone guessed. I’d say it’s a code for a name or a name of a jutsu, revaling what/how pain came to be. But that’s just a wild guess.
June 9th, 2008 at 1:54 am
to TheVindicator
i only wanted to know the spot to read that
June 9th, 2008 at 2:05 am
http://www.inaruto.net/naruto/naruto-chapter-385/4/
Just saw it, can’t beleive I missed it. It’s the eyes that controle the Kyubi for the Uchias. Atleast according to Itatchi.
June 9th, 2008 at 2:09 am
XIaoyu: I find it on Wikipedia.org a while back by misstake. Tried to find it again for you but there are so many Naruto articles there and they are very poorly organized so I don’t have time atm. If you remind me later I’ll see what I can do.
June 9th, 2008 at 2:23 am
i think the power itachi gave naruto is tykoumi. he gave his brother that black fire jutsu and gave naruto the genjutus knowing it would have the most effect on sasake
June 9th, 2008 at 2:23 am
To TheVindicator:
Yes it’s definitely the eyes not the chakra, what kyuubi said was that the Sharingan was a curse of an entire clan, and their chakra even sinister than his own. That would explain why they always fail, they are cursed. Anyway it’s the eyes that hold the control over the fox, Itashi said that was the secret of the MS.
About the first option. I don’t think is that, when Minato died, like I said Itashi was just 5 years old. I seriously doubt that Minato would think of him. And I doubt that Itashi passed his chakra to Naruto. Naruto already have enough chakra, he doesn’t need the curse of the Uchihas which would make him fail in the end, and if Itashi did that how could he fight Sasuke? I’m still thinking it is a sealing technique.
About the second option, I like the idea of Naruto going to the whirlpool to learn how to control the fox chakra. But Kyuubi was always connected to Konoha and the Fire Country, not Whirlpool (even if I think Whirlpool now belongs to the fire country, I already explained why), and I think Naruto is the one who needs to control the fox be himself, he doesn’t need anyone power to do that, he can already control 3 tails, he only lose control when he get angry and mad, so he have to control his emotions and command the fox like he did in the beginning.
That code is definitely related to Pain’s identity, its a message to Konoha and Tsunade, not to Naruto personally. That was left in the Scroll.
To DeathWalker:
My reply to you about that Hokage stuff is in moderation sorry.
June 9th, 2008 at 2:39 am
I have read naruto from the pilot all the way to this chapter.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/0/
There is the pilot, where it is said naruto is the foxs son.
June 9th, 2008 at 2:40 am
to TheVindicator
no problem well but if you can find it again that will be great but no problem =)
June 9th, 2008 at 2:44 am
to TheVindicator
and you are right the uchias control the kyubi with the eyes but i think only with the ems still i need to suport my teory and see about it
June 9th, 2008 at 2:45 am
Lol my reply is in moderation right now, I know naruto said he was going to become hokage to change stuff in his fight with neji, but as I said, as time passes naruto changes, he dosen’t even talk about hokage anymore.
June 9th, 2008 at 5:42 am
I didnt want to do this, but if the next couple of chapters keep being crap like the ones ive been reading, im just gonna quit the whole series. Im still reading other mangas now, so it wont be much of a problem. Its just that i like how the series was going, i thought it would be much better as time passed, but it got worse.
Now an Uchiha just gave the protagonist extra power. Do you know what this means? Kishi just destroyed the main character, and the main character’s purpose in the series. He was supposed to work hard to achieve his dream. He has kyuubi, as an extra boost, something he would eventually have better control over. So his advantage was okay, and understandable. But now he gets extra boost from someone, an uchiha.
We have been seeing so much of uchihas and how they are so much of a power hax. Now the ones with sharingan, the rival of the kyuubi, gave naruto power. Does that thing make sense now? Narutos rival is sasuke. Sasukes main power is sharingan. Narutos main is kyuubi. Now naruto just got extra help from an uchiha with sharingan, he gave naruto an extra boost, some more power.
This just shows how crappy kishi just made the protagonist. In the whole elapsed time after the timeskip, naruto didnt learn crap. He learned more in one week with kakashi than that whole time with jiraya. He made sasuke god level. At first when sasuke lost curse seal, i was like, okay, maybe its kinda even now. Then sasuke got amaterasu and that special eye. Its hopeless for naruto.
Naruto would get stronger than sasuke eventually, but it would be so stupid. He just got some extra power from an uchiha, he already has the power of kyuubi as well. Then he also has the key that he will get soon, to give him extra strength. Naruto is one of my faves, but kishi made it so stupid on how naruto would surpass sasuke.
Im such a naruto (the series, anime and manga) fan. I play the video games and such. But if the next couple of chapters are trashy like these, im gonna have to quit on the series. ALL my friends who were a naruto fan, instantly quit the series after 396. I may quit too. I hope not. Because i want to get the next naruto game for the psp. I would hate to quit being a naruto fan.
Anyways, thanks for reading this big boring speech. Lets all pray that the next few chapters wont be a disappointment. lol, sasuke getting powers by a poke on his forehead. Naruto getting power by getting choked by a crow. What next? This series was about how hard work helps accomplish someones goal. But if people keep getting extra boosts like this, it just contradicts the series itself.
Additionally, kishi just made a big mistake. The databook was wrong about amaterasu and alot of things. It said kurenaii had the same level genjutsu as itachi. Now im not an uchiha fan. But i still know that this is impossible. Databook also said itachi was in akatsuki after he left konoha, and even the latest manga chapters said that too. But i made an essay PROVING that he was in akatsuki at age 11. The math and everything fit in the timeline, so kishi messed up on the naruto timeline as well. So basically kishis just crashing now. I actually think the naruto series wont even finish, since kishi is making so much mistakes. Later guys.
June 9th, 2008 at 6:17 am
to DeathWalker
look.. the ninja way of naruto is never go back in his word got it? then when he says that he will trun into hakage he says to that he not go back in his world of reach hokage.. i dont need too see if they say it or not.. is just the personality of one char and kishimoto dont go changes naruto personality (i think at leats and if he does he does it wrong (sry kishiiiiiiimotoooooooooooooo))
June 9th, 2008 at 6:18 am
to DeathWalker
naruto will never change
June 9th, 2008 at 6:50 am
Is that so???
On the the first part naruto never once cryed, now he cries all the time. I would call that a major cjamge.