I wonder if those captains who were fighting the top 3 espada will just get totaled extra quick, like ukitake and joushiro, im thinkin soifon might be killed, and that toushiro will be struck down as he’s probably all out of gas and there is enough ice there for halibel to do her super attack
@Syramus U r right, Tessai shudnt be opted out. I said that before as well that against barragan, kidou shud do the trick. The forbidden tech that Tessai used in the pendulum arc that stops time in a region, can destroy barragan’s ability.
@Azrael_chaos Yeah maybe that or urahara is trying to open up th garganta again. But I have a hunch, that so far its totally aizen’s game but urahara’s arrival will change everything. I think he will be the one that will come up with a plan to stop aizen and maybe aizen for the first time in the manga will give a surprised look :p
@Athenus0 I agree, Hitsu and soifon shud be out of gas now but I guess before them being taken out, viazards wud engage the espadas.
I agree with you that Tessai might have the potential to stop Barragan. My only thing is that it would be most likely that Barragan will face a vizard since they are there now. I would like to Love fight him (as stated in my matchups) cause that would be a good way to show case Love’s power as a captain level shinigami turned vizard. Hopefully he has some kido type ability with his zanpaktou.
Plus kido would prob be most needed against Superchunky, so Hachigen and Tessai would be better for that (kinda like the Hisagi vs Allon situation but better). I just can’t see a physical attack, not even Komamura’s bankai having much effect.
Am I wrong, but I believe that Yammaji will sit out until he is absolutely needed, and Komamura has no specific role that he can fill to help in this fight (superchunky is too large for his bankai IMO). I think the vizards will handle everything and refuse the help of those who exiled them (tried to execute them SS) only allowing Shunsui and Ukitake to help out (of course Urahara, Ichigo and their groups will help too).
Also, I don’t see anything happening to Toshiro or Soifon. The vizards are going to jump in and be like “I’m your opponent now”. As far as anyone dying is concerned, the only person at this moment I believe should die is Yammaji. He has been the head of SS Gotei 13 for atleast 200 years. t’s time the torch is passed and a new generation should emerge after the Aizen crisis.
I think the great Fire based zanpaktou (Yammaji) versus the great Water based zanpaktou (Aizen) should end with both of the combatants perishing. Plus according to character stats they’re perfectly equal in regards to everything. That wold be the best way to move on to a new arc expanding the stories on heaven, hell, the zero squad, Isshin, the king, etc. I think Unohana as the 2nd strongest would be a great Commander General, plus it gives her a greater role in the story.
Sorry, i know its a lot, but I had to put it all down before I forgot.
I partly agree. I’ve said for some time now that Yamamoto would keep out of it, save his strength for Aizen. He was the only shinigami who had a chance against Aizen. So it’s an obvious strategy for him to fight Aizen. They’re not stupid, those shinigami.
But Aizen won’t go down anytime soon. He’ll master Hollow Powers when things get ugly, (probably by absorbing the Hogyoku) and then he’s pretty much unstoppable. Ichigo will obviously be the one to stop him, as an equally complete Shinigamy/Hollow hybrid. It’s so damn predictable that Ichigo’s gonna fight the last battle against Aizen. It’s been hinted like 45236727 times now. Aizen even sent out Ulqiorra to test Ichigo. He’s the only one who’s got the potential.
Look at his Vizard/Arrancar hybrid form. No one came that far but him.
Urahara might be a valid option for Hueco Mundo, actually. They wouldn’t send half of their Captains there through a Garganta (of which they themselves know nothing about) without a back-up plan. So before anything else, I think it’s Urahara’s task to monitor the situation in Hueco Mundo. He has the ability to create Garganta.
That said, it opens up certain scenarios. The whole of Karakura’s forces (Urahara, Yoruichi, Ishin, Ryuken, Tessai, etc.) helping out against Yammy. Because if Yammy is as strong as I think he is, it’ll take a LOT to bring him down.
And the whole bunch of survivors, from both battles, may reunite after Aizen makes his escape. (Probably towards Soul Society, Karakura, and the King)
This is a rough translation I got to see if it was legit enough to open the threads.
verification: pending credits: WL source: ?
Hirako asks to Aizen how he’s been.
The top starts with the vaizards faces
Kira: Who are they. Every one of them has spirit power of a captain level. It’s all over. Komamura: … Aizen: Thanks to you, I’ve been doing well. Aizen: If we take one step now, everything ends… Hirako Sinji, I’m gonna have to ask you to step away. HIrako: Still a troublesome guy… You haven’t changed a bit since you were in mother’s womb… We’ll show you Aizen Hirako: The thing that has taken root inside of us, the thing that you’ve been wanting so badly. The vaizards all turn into hollow form. The spirit energy comes down heavily around the area Kira: Ah…Ah… Soifon: A hollow mask…! They’re… Hirako: How is it Aizen? Seeing this much hollow form all at once? Stark: Aizen-san! Are these people friends? Or Aizen: They’re just mistakes… There’s no problem in gettng rid of them. Stark: Understood Fires cero repeatedly Vaizards all fire cero of their own to offset the cero Stark: Tsk, cero for you guys too… Hiyori: Baka Sinji! Use your full power! It only offset it Hirako: I fired one that was twice as big as yours Hiyori: What did you just say! Rose: Stop it you too… No one’s taking it easy… It just means that that’s how strong that Arrancar is Risa: I did fire it easy. HIrako: The one that we met in the human world last time and… This is a pain in the butt. Mashiro: What’s wrong Kensei? You You’ve got a scary look on your face. Kensei: You can’t tell my expression! Hirako: Is it Tousen?
Mostly it just shows the reactions of those acquainted with the Vizards. Hisagi is in shock and Kyouraku is trod on by Risa.
Yama-ji’s face is one of complete shock at first “you concealed yourselves in the present world?”
At the end WW is all “uah” Gin “annoying kid, he went and spoiled all the tension.” Tousen “when WW speaks is it significant, be quiet and watch.” Suddenly masses of gillians emerge. Hirako transforms.
I think it’s been there for ages but I haven’t really been checking…
We see the reactions of the shinigami and aizen’s group. Hisagi, breathing faintly, stares at Kensei. Hirako says there are people from the gotei 13 he wanted greet after such a long time, but not everyone is there. Lisa silently goes over to Kyouraku. She steps on his head and asks how long he’s going to pretend he’s dead. Then she presses down with her foot. Kyouraku tells her she’s gotten pretty in the time he hasn’t seen her. She kicks him away in disgust. Kyouraku: “I’m glad your healthy!” “Fool!” “…Really…” (Seems like they’re talking about the past?) Hirako go to Yama-jii and asks if he’s let go of his past grudge. To Aizen he says matters are different with him. Hacchi creates a barrier room(?) The 1st Division VC looks at it and finally goes in. At first he’s hesitant, but then goes in to watch the progress of the battle. Yama-jii asks if he can consider them allies. “We are not your allies. We are Aizen’s enemies. In truth, we’re Ichigo’s allies.” He returns to the vizards. WW screams and a large number of gillians come out of Superchunky’s mouth. The vizards all don their masks. Rose’s is like a bird. Love’s is like a demon/ogre. Lisa’s has a cross in it. Hacchi’s is like Nel’s fraccion with the big face.
Translation of the Ohana spoiler by CG:
Tousen, Gin and Aizen are surprised by Hirako’s appearance. Surprised Yama-jii asks, “Are you our allies?” and gets the answer (from Hirako judging by the kansai))), “We’re Ichigo’s allies” Lisa goes to Kyouraku’s side and is relieved to see that he’s ok. Wonderwise shouts and Gin says, “Wht a strange child. I don’t like him”. Tousen answers, “Be quiet and just watch”. Lotsa Gillians appear. Hirako and others put on their masks and prepare to fight. The end
死神、愛染組、それぞれの反応。 We see the reactions of the shinigami and aizen’s group. 69、息絶え絶えながらも六車を見つける。 Hisagi, breathing faintly, stares at Kensei. 平子が久しぶりの対面で13隊に挨拶したいやついるかって問いに全員がいないというなか、 Hirako says there are people from the gotei 13 he wanted greet after such a long time, but not everyone is there. 無言で享楽のとこにいくリサ。 Lisa silently goes over to Kyouraku. 頭踏んづけていつまで死んだフリしてんねんっと突っ込むと She steps on his head and asks how long he’s going to pretend he’s dead. Then she presses down with her foot. 見ない間に随分キレイになったねぇと享楽。それを蹴飛ばして一蹴するとそどんだけ強くなったか見したると息 巻く。 Kyouraku tells her she’s gotten pretty in the time he hasn’t seen her. She kicks him away in disgust. 享楽「元気そうでよかった」「アホ！」「･･･全くだよ・・・」（昔のことも含めて？） Kyouraku: “I’m glad your healthy!” “Fool!” “…Really…” (Seems like they’re talking about the past?) 平子はじじいのとこへ。恨みを晴らしにきたのかと問うじじいに、愛染にな、あんたのことは別だ といい、 Hirako go to Yama-jii and asks if he’s let go of his past grudge. To Aizen he says matters are different with him. あるとしたら結界を張ったせいで中に入れなかったことらしく、 Hacchi creates a barrier room(?) 見張りのピエールを見つけてやっと入れた（ピエールは入れるべきか逡巡してたが内部の戦況を見 て入れた） The 1st Division VC looks at it and finally goes in. At first he’s hesitant, but then goes in to watch the progress of the battle. じじいが今は味方と考えていいかと訊くと、 Yama-jii asks if he can consider them allies. 「俺らはあんたらの味方ちゃう、俺らは愛染の敵、ほんでもって苺の味方や」といって仮面のほう へ戻る。 “We are not your allies. We are Aizen’s enemies. In truth, we’re Ichigo’s allies.” He returns to the vizards. ＷＷがウーアーいうとでかいやつの口から大量のギリアン。 WW screams and a large number of gillians come out of Superchunky’s mouth. 仮面組全員仮面化して次号。 The vizards all don their masks.
ローズは鳥みたいな、ラブは鬼みたいな、リサのは面に十字が入ってる、ハッチはネルのフラシオンの顔でかい やつににてる Rose’s is like a bird. Love’s is like a demon/ogre. Lisa’s has a cross in it. Hacchi’s is like Nel’s fraccion with the big face.
I wonder if those captains who were fighting the top 3 espada will just get totaled extra quick, like ukitake and joushiro, im thinkin soifon might be killed, and that toushiro will be struck down as he’s probably all out of gas and there is enough ice there for halibel to do her super attack
@Syramus
U r right, Tessai shudnt be opted out. I said that before as well that against barragan, kidou shud do the trick. The forbidden tech that Tessai used in the pendulum arc that stops time in a region, can destroy barragan’s ability.
@Azrael_chaos
Yeah maybe that or urahara is trying to open up th garganta again. But I have a hunch, that so far its totally aizen’s game but urahara’s arrival will change everything. I think he will be the one that will come up with a plan to stop aizen and maybe aizen for the first time in the manga will give a surprised look :p
@Athenus0
I agree, Hitsu and soifon shud be out of gas now but I guess before them being taken out, viazards wud engage the espadas.
I agree with you that Tessai might have the potential to stop Barragan. My only thing is that it would be most likely that Barragan will face a vizard since they are there now. I would like to Love fight him (as stated in my matchups) cause that would be a good way to show case Love’s power as a captain level shinigami turned vizard. Hopefully he has some kido type ability with his zanpaktou.
Plus kido would prob be most needed against Superchunky, so Hachigen and Tessai would be better for that (kinda like the Hisagi vs Allon situation but better). I just can’t see a physical attack, not even Komamura’s bankai having much effect.
Am I wrong, but I believe that Yammaji will sit out until he is absolutely needed, and Komamura has no specific role that he can fill to help in this fight (superchunky is too large for his bankai IMO). I think the vizards will handle everything and refuse the help of those who exiled them (tried to execute them SS) only allowing Shunsui and Ukitake to help out (of course Urahara, Ichigo and their groups will help too).
Also, I don’t see anything happening to Toshiro or Soifon. The vizards are going to jump in and be like “I’m your opponent now”. As far as anyone dying is concerned, the only person at this moment I believe should die is Yammaji. He has been the head of SS Gotei 13 for atleast 200 years. t’s time the torch is passed and a new generation should emerge after the Aizen crisis.
I think the great Fire based zanpaktou (Yammaji) versus the great Water based zanpaktou (Aizen) should end with both of the combatants perishing. Plus according to character stats they’re perfectly equal in regards to everything. That wold be the best way to move on to a new arc expanding the stories on heaven, hell, the zero squad, Isshin, the king, etc. I think Unohana as the 2nd strongest would be a great Commander General, plus it gives her a greater role in the story.
Sorry, i know its a lot, but I had to put it all down before I forgot.
I partly agree.
I’ve said for some time now that Yamamoto would keep out of it,
save his strength for Aizen. He was the only shinigami who had a
chance against Aizen. So it’s an obvious strategy for him to fight
Aizen. They’re not stupid, those shinigami.
But Aizen won’t go down anytime soon. He’ll master Hollow Powers
when things get ugly, (probably by absorbing the Hogyoku)
and then he’s pretty much unstoppable.
Ichigo will obviously be the one to stop him, as an equally complete
Shinigamy/Hollow hybrid.
It’s so damn predictable that Ichigo’s gonna fight the last battle against
Aizen. It’s been hinted like 45236727 times now. Aizen even sent out
Ulqiorra to test Ichigo. He’s the only one who’s got the potential.
Look at his Vizard/Arrancar hybrid form. No one came that far but him.
Urahara might be a valid option for Hueco Mundo, actually. They wouldn’t send
half of their Captains there through a Garganta (of which they themselves know nothing about)
without a back-up plan.
So before anything else, I think it’s Urahara’s task to monitor the situation
in Hueco Mundo. He has the ability to create Garganta.
That said, it opens up certain scenarios. The whole of Karakura’s forces
(Urahara, Yoruichi, Ishin, Ryuken, Tessai, etc.) helping out against
Yammy. Because if Yammy is as strong as I think he is, it’ll take
a LOT to bring him down.
And the whole bunch of survivors, from both battles, may reunite
after Aizen makes his escape. (Probably towards Soul Society, Karakura,
and the King)
This is a rough translation I got to see if it was legit enough to open the threads.
verification: pending
credits: WL
source: ?
Hirako asks to Aizen how he’s been.
The top starts with the vaizards faces
Kira: Who are they. Every one of them has spirit power of a captain level. It’s all over.
Komamura: …
Aizen: Thanks to you, I’ve been doing well.
Aizen: If we take one step now, everything ends… Hirako Sinji, I’m gonna have to ask you to step away.
HIrako: Still a troublesome guy… You haven’t changed a bit since you were in mother’s womb… We’ll show you Aizen
Hirako: The thing that has taken root inside of us, the thing that you’ve been wanting so badly.
The vaizards all turn into hollow form.
The spirit energy comes down heavily around the area
Kira: Ah…Ah…
Soifon: A hollow mask…! They’re…
Hirako: How is it Aizen? Seeing this much hollow form all at once?
Stark: Aizen-san! Are these people friends? Or
Aizen: They’re just mistakes… There’s no problem in gettng rid of them.
Stark: Understood
Fires cero repeatedly
Vaizards all fire cero of their own to offset the cero
Stark: Tsk, cero for you guys too…
Hiyori: Baka Sinji! Use your full power! It only offset it
Hirako: I fired one that was twice as big as yours
Hiyori: What did you just say!
Rose: Stop it you too… No one’s taking it easy… It just means that that’s how strong that Arrancar is
Risa: I did fire it easy.
HIrako: The one that we met in the human world last time and… This is a pain in the butt.
Mashiro: What’s wrong Kensei? You
You’ve got a scary look on your face.
Kensei: You can’t tell my expression!
Hirako: Is it Tousen?
seems legit enough, aizen would say something like the vizards are mistakes and they won’t be a problem
The confirmed spoilers are out
Mostly it just shows the reactions of those acquainted with the Vizards.
Hisagi is in shock and Kyouraku is trod on by Risa.
Yama-ji’s face is one of complete shock at first “you concealed yourselves in the present world?”
At the end WW is all “uah”
Gin “annoying kid, he went and spoiled all the tension.”
Tousen “when WW speaks is it significant, be quiet and watch.”
Suddenly masses of gillians emerge.
Hirako transforms.
I think it’s been there for ages but I haven’t really been checking…
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きてる？
ほとんど知り合い同士の反応ですね
ひさぎが驚いていたり、京楽がめがねっこに踏まれたり
仮面たちは一番隊副隊長に結界内に入れてもらったようです
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ベリたんて誰だ？
やまじいは最初驚いた顔したあとに「やはり現世に身を潜めておったか」
最後はWWがウーアー
市丸「なんやもおうるさい子やなぁ緊張感台無しやん」
とうせん「WWの発する言葉には意味がある 黙って見ていろ」
急にでかいやつからギリアンが大量に出てきて平子たちが変身して次号
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I will post a more complete form when its available.
More translations are out
Translation of the 69 spoiler by sheetzflol:
We see the reactions of the shinigami and aizen’s group.
Hisagi, breathing faintly, stares at Kensei.
Hirako says there are people from the gotei 13 he wanted greet after such a long time, but not everyone is there.
Lisa silently goes over to Kyouraku.
She steps on his head and asks how long he’s going to pretend he’s dead. Then she presses down with her foot.
Kyouraku tells her she’s gotten pretty in the time he hasn’t seen her. She kicks him away in disgust.
Kyouraku: “I’m glad your healthy!” “Fool!” “…Really…” (Seems like they’re talking about the past?)
Hirako go to Yama-jii and asks if he’s let go of his past grudge. To Aizen he says matters are different with him.
Hacchi creates a barrier room(?)
The 1st Division VC looks at it and finally goes in. At first he’s hesitant, but then goes in to watch the progress of the battle.
Yama-jii asks if he can consider them allies.
“We are not your allies. We are Aizen’s enemies. In truth, we’re Ichigo’s allies.” He returns to the vizards.
WW screams and a large number of gillians come out of Superchunky’s mouth.
The vizards all don their masks.
Rose’s is like a bird. Love’s is like a demon/ogre. Lisa’s has a cross in it. Hacchi’s is like Nel’s fraccion with the big face.
Translation of the Ohana spoiler by CG:
Tousen, Gin and Aizen are surprised by Hirako’s appearance.
Surprised Yama-jii asks, “Are you our allies?” and gets the answer (from Hirako judging by the kansai))), “We’re Ichigo’s allies”
Lisa goes to Kyouraku’s side and is relieved to see that he’s ok.
Wonderwise shouts and Gin says, “Wht a strange child. I don’t like him”.
Tousen answers, “Be quiet and just watch”.
Lotsa Gillians appear.
Hirako and others put on their masks and prepare to fight.
The end
タイトル
whose side are we on
死神、愛染組、それぞれの反応。
We see the reactions of the shinigami and aizen’s group.
69、息絶え絶えながらも六車を見つける。
Hisagi, breathing faintly, stares at Kensei.
平子が久しぶりの対面で13隊に挨拶したいやついるかって問いに全員がいないというなか、
Hirako says there are people from the gotei 13 he wanted greet after such a long time, but not everyone is there.
無言で享楽のとこにいくリサ。
Lisa silently goes over to Kyouraku.
頭踏んづけていつまで死んだフリしてんねんっと突っ込むと
She steps on his head and asks how long he’s going to pretend he’s dead. Then she presses down with her foot.
見ない間に随分キレイになったねぇと享楽。それを蹴飛ばして一蹴するとそどんだけ強くなったか見したると息 巻く。
Kyouraku tells her she’s gotten pretty in the time he hasn’t seen her. She kicks him away in disgust.
享楽「元気そうでよかった」「アホ！」「･･･全くだよ・・・」（昔のことも含めて？）
Kyouraku: “I’m glad your healthy!” “Fool!” “…Really…” (Seems like they’re talking about the past?)
平子はじじいのとこへ。恨みを晴らしにきたのかと問うじじいに、愛染にな、あんたのことは別だ といい、
Hirako go to Yama-jii and asks if he’s let go of his past grudge. To Aizen he says matters are different with him.
あるとしたら結界を張ったせいで中に入れなかったことらしく、
Hacchi creates a barrier room(?)
見張りのピエールを見つけてやっと入れた（ピエールは入れるべきか逡巡してたが内部の戦況を見 て入れた）
The 1st Division VC looks at it and finally goes in. At first he’s hesitant, but then goes in to watch the progress of the battle.
じじいが今は味方と考えていいかと訊くと、
Yama-jii asks if he can consider them allies.
「俺らはあんたらの味方ちゃう、俺らは愛染の敵、ほんでもって苺の味方や」といって仮面のほう へ戻る。
“We are not your allies. We are Aizen’s enemies. In truth, we’re Ichigo’s allies.” He returns to the vizards.
ＷＷがウーアーいうとでかいやつの口から大量のギリアン。
WW screams and a large number of gillians come out of Superchunky’s mouth.
仮面組全員仮面化して次号。
The vizards all don their masks.
ローズは鳥みたいな、ラブは鬼みたいな、リサのは面に十字が入ってる、ハッチはネルのフラシオンの顔でかい やつににてる
Rose’s is like a bird. Love’s is like a demon/ogre. Lisa’s has a cross in it. Hacchi’s is like Nel’s fraccion with the big face.